{"id":109,"date":"2020-06-06T17:31:04","date_gmt":"2020-06-06T17:31:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/?p=109"},"modified":"2026-06-05T23:12:20","modified_gmt":"2026-06-05T23:12:20","slug":"addressing-concerns-about-this-website","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/addressing-concerns-about-this-website\/","title":{"rendered":"Addressing concerns about kids chat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hey kids!<\/p>\n<p>Recently, it has been brought to our attention that a video was created with accusations directed at the owners, administrators and moderators of this very website. \u00a0 We usually don&#8217;t respond to such crap and just continue to make this website better without the outside noise. \u00a0 However, with a little extra time, \u00a0we thought it would be appropriate to send a message in response to the channel and its author that was posting false accusations and defamatory remarks about this website and its staff. \u00a0 I have gathered input from several of our staff members for this writing. \u00a0For this blogs purposes, we will call the video author, <em><strong>Mr. X<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>We will not be providing a link to his channel because it contains too much false information and generally made to create some shock value and click bait. \u00a0Nothing more than attracting more users to his channel for monetary purposes. \u00a0That is very evident by the number of monetary links to T-shirt sales, voice over work and whatever else he sells on his channel which the links are stuffed at the top. \u00a0We will write some responses that we want to address with regards to the accusations he made towards us and the deranged thoughts he conveniently conjured up to make his case. \u00a0 The points will only address older users (more specifically any predators who access and uses our chat platform for unlawful purposes). \u00a0We have other rules that we enforce but because of the subject of Mr. X&#8217;s video, this is the theme we will focus on. \u00a0 \u00a0We will just list them out in point form so it is more clear. \u00a0We apologize for the randomness of the points listed below but the randomness of his accusations were even worse.<\/p>\n<h4>\u00a0Points of interest in response to the video:<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>This website has always put safety first for our users. \u00a0 There are many rules and tips that we provide on this website. \u00a0 It is literally spread throughout. \u00a0We have <strong>NEVER<\/strong> encouraged older users to use this website. \u00a0Quite the contrary. \u00a0 \u00a0Just ask all the older users we currently have on our ban list. \u00a0 It is written in many places that users older than 19 are not allowed. \u00a0 The main page, chat page, welcome message in chat&#8230;..few other pages on this website. \u00a0Heck, it&#8217;s not even a huge website in terms of pages and we have this on a lot of spots. \u00a0 How many times do we have to write it? \u00a0 \u00a0All older users are banned. \u00a0We staff dozens of moderators and have a very hard working Administrator named Arkham. \u00a0 Pedophiles make us sick and we have always assisted law enforcement to help catch them. \u00a0 To accuse us of encouraging this activity and to accuse us all (owners, admins, and mods) of being pedophiles is very irresponsible and false. \u00a0 \u00a0If a moderator is informed or sees an older user. \u00a0He or she is kicked and banned instantly.<\/li>\n<li>This website does not allow the use of VPNs. \u00a0 Mr.X accused us of blocking his IP address to prevent him from accessing the website to gather information when, in fact, he just was using a hosting company IP address. \u00a0 Obviously a Proxy or VPN to conceal his identity. \u00a0Those are always blocked. \u00a0In fact, his entire ASN with the hosting company he was using, was blocked. \u00a0It was simple as that. \u00a0<strong>We have absolutely no idea what his IP address is or was as he conducted his &#8220;investigation&#8221;<\/strong>. \u00a0 VPN bans are added almost daily to our ban list. \u00a0 He got blocked and accused us of blocking him to prevent his &#8220;investigation&#8221;. \u00a0 Any emails sent to our Administrator &#8220;Arkham&#8221; has no record of his IP address and Arkham does not have access to block entire ASN&#8217;s to our website. \u00a0 \u00a0So, why do we block VPNs? \u00a0Well, it is to prevent bots and predators from accessing our website. \u00a0It is NOT to prevent Mr. X from making his videos or whatever he is doing. \u00a0In fact, if he wanted to access the website, all he has to do is turn off his VPN. \u00a0I guess he forgot to mention that point to his viewers, because it adds to what i mentioned before&#8230;.some shock value to his video and accusations. \u00a0 \u00a0It would be a better headline if he were to say that we blocked his IP to prevent him from doing his investigation.<\/li>\n<li>Mr. X has implied there was no response from our Administrator Arkham to his email when he asked (in an aggressive and threatening manner) what will be done from the predators he encountered on a recent visit to our website. \u00a0 In fact, Arkham did reply. \u00a0He was asked to send screenshots. \u00a0 He didn&#8217;t receive them so there was no action done. \u00a0After all, what was Arkham to do if there is no evidence? \u00a0 If we started to ban people when another user makes an accusation, that would be total chaos. \u00a0<strong>WE NEED PROOF. \u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0We asked him for proof in the form of screenshots. \u00a0 He was not able to provide them and falsely believed we already had all this information. \u00a0Provide the screenshots. \u00a0You even showed on your channel how to take a screenshot, so provide them! \u00a0Saying a few names will not help us. \u00a0 Oh, and another thing. \u00a0 For privacy reasons we do \u00a0not read logs. \u00a0In fact, we do not have access to chat logs. \u00a0To suggest that we are intentionally covering anything up is, again, being irresponsible and quite frankly, stupid.<\/li>\n<li>We love that Mr. X is against the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; \u00a0but the &#8220;list&#8221; he created contained about 80% bots. \u00a0 We have gone through each one of the names on his list. \u00a0They were either already banned or had already dropped off the system. \u00a0For a little background, sometimes this chat receives automated bots directing users to other websites. \u00a0 This was very prevalent around the time he shot the video but has since been cleaned up significantly when we were made aware of them a week ago. \u00a0 These bots are present in thousands of websites around the web and have no care about the age of the user they are spamming. \u00a0They spam the same message everywhere. \u00a0These are automated bots, not pedophiles. \u00a0 \u00a0We have taken a lot of measures to stop them (banning the VPNs and proxies they used as the first measure). \u00a0We will continue to work hard to stop bots from accessing our website with Recaptcha and heavy in-chat moderation. \u00a0 Although, we do not doubt Mr.X encountered some of the real predator users he showed in his video, he failed to do the #1 thing we tell all users who encounter older users; \u00a0That is, <strong>REPORT THEM<\/strong> to us with the appropriate screenshots. \u00a0If you only have a name we could only do minimal investigation but capturing someone saying they are older is definitely more helpful and effective then accusing someone of being older. \u00a0 The bottom line is we will deal with them. \u00a0 By no means are we protecting them. \u00a0 If you feel we are not effective enough to deal with them then we also encourage users to file a report with their local police to get in touch with us and we can assist law enforcement. \u00a0We have done so many times in the past. \u00a0That will always continue. \u00a0Mr.X feels because he has thousands of subscribers, a deep voice act, and some sinister music makes him above the law. \u00a0Let this website and law enforcement do their jobs to catch predators.<\/li>\n<li>The manner in which Mr. X picks apart our introduction page for grammar mistakes (most was because \u00a0Mr. X has a problem of reading) and images for depicting what he suggested as old people, was amusing and appalling at the same time. \u00a0Mr. X \u00a0coupled this with his scary music and sinister theme &#8230;&#8230;. what an absolute joke. \u00a0 Definitely exaggerated many of his points to make everyone who helps run and moderate our website (including our independent third party web designer) look like monsters when there isn&#8217;t anybody more friendly than the staff here.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-455 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/seth-meyers-exaggerating.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"498\" height=\"249\" \/><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Mr. X then goes on to sarcastically read a paragraph in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/faqs.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Frequently Asked Questions<\/a> page that states that we do not disclose information about past or pending cases involving law enforcement. \u00a0Well, duh, maybe because it&#8217;s a violation of privacy and the law to interfere with an active case. \u00a0In fact, most of the time we do not get information about the case. \u00a0It&#8217;s none of our business. \u00a0We just help law enforcement with whatever we can provide them. \u00a0Perhaps he was looking for us to announce the details of a pending or closed investigation for the world to see?<\/li>\n<li>Mr. X claims to have opened up the report button and says it&#8217;s not working. \u00a0Yet, if he had a pair of working eyes, he could see that the flag button beside each message is the &#8220;report button&#8221;. \u00a0 That would have notified a moderator immediately of any message in the chat that would violate our rules. \u00a0Action would have been taken much quicker. \u00a0 \u00a0 He actually used the contact form as the report button then went on a little rant wondering why it was such a useless &#8220;form&#8221; lacking any sort of functions. \u00a0 They are not the same thing. \u00a0\u00a0Attached below is a larger image for anyone \u00a0as blind as Mr. X was and unable to find it.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4>How to flag a message for moderator review?<\/h4>\n<p>Here is the icon that must be pressed to make a report. &#8212;&gt; <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-457\" src=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/3dots.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"182\" height=\"84\" \/>(those 3 dots. \u00a0It appears at the end of every message for registered users. \u00a0After pressing that, the following form pops up:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-458\" src=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/reportthiscontent.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"858\" height=\"834\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/reportthiscontent.png 858w, https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/reportthiscontent-300x292.png 300w, https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/reportthiscontent-768x747.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 858px) 100vw, 858px\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-456\" src=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Screen-Shot-2020-06-07-at-2.09.35-AM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"802\" height=\"410\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Select the appropriate reason for your report and a moderator will action it. \u00a0 That is all. \u00a0Very simple to use. \u00a0We have 13 year olds who can figure this out, but apparently a grown adult using our website could not.<\/p>\n<h4>Concluding Remarks<\/h4>\n<p>The video was just full of a lot of bullsh*t, exaggeration of facts, and total lack of research and understanding of how our website actually works and functions. \u00a0 It is this short sightedness and lack of common sense that is really troubling with this Mr.X. \u00a0If he crosses paths with a predator, it must mean that we are welcoming them with open arms. \u00a0In many ways, it is clear that his lack of common sense was almost on purpose. \u00a0After all, if the real facts are known, there wouldn&#8217;t be a video to be made. \u00a0 It is unbelievable how a channel like his can even have subscribers considering the amount of fake news Mr. X is reporting. \u00a0 I guess that&#8217;s actually what brings in the subscribers. \u00a0 \u00a0Reading his comments, it&#8217;s clear he has a lot of people fooled. \u00a0Accusing us of encouraging pedophiles to be here? \u00a0Are you insane? \u00a0We are working actively with law enforcement, plastering all sorts of rules and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/safety.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">chat safety<\/a> messages throughout the website, and taking all possible measures within our reach to help stop them. \u00a0 That is not enough for Mr. X because then it isn&#8217;t a story for him. \u00a0 We can go on and on with several more inconsistencies found with Mr. X&#8217;s video but the above should be sufficient. \u00a0The fact is we are fighting the same fight. \u00a0He just doesn&#8217;t realize it.<\/p>\n<p>It is important to note that we are not attacking his fight against exploitation of children. \u00a0We respect and support that. \u00a0 We are with him on that. \u00a0 We are questioning the way he one sidedly went about making that video. \u00a0 The sad part is he is a grown man in a kids chat and also encouraging other older users to come here which doesn&#8217;t help. \u00a0 \u00a0Suggesting at the end of his video, that people don&#8217;t even need to mention his channel link is simply a way to deflect his true intention of monetary gain. \u00a0Yet, the amount of monetary gain he will earn from this video will be significant.<\/p>\n<p>KidsChat.net \u00a0has been here a long time. \u00a0 We have grown into a very popular and enjoyable community platform for kids to chat throughout the years. \u00a0If this website was anything like he claims, there would not be a single user here. \u00a0Yet, everyone can see the abundance of happy kids who use our website \u00a0to contact their friends and make new friends. \u00a0 \u00a0If any of us were supporting criminal activity suggested in his video, we would all surely be in prison by now. \u00a0 With popularity, unfortunately, also brings the risks with it. \u00a0 More users always becomes more problems. \u00a0However, we are here to fight them. \u00a0We are continuing to work every single day to make this place safer and help put away the filth for good.<\/p>\n<p>Stay safe everyone and happy chatting.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Kids Chat Net Team<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>UPDATE:<\/strong><\/em><strong>\u00a0 The above information is all true. \u00a0Nobody would know that better than us. \u00a0Mr. X does not know how to navigate this website, nor does he want to show anything but one side. \u00a0He is encouraging users of his channel to come to our website (primarily older users is his audience) which does not help the issue. \u00a0 Furthermore, Administrator Arkham is \u00a0now receiving serious death threats from multiple people. \u00a0This will have to be escalated through the proper legal channels. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Update #2<\/em>. \u00a0Please read the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/follow-up-to-more-fake-news\/\">follow up to more fake news<\/a> for another response to more fake news being posted.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Update #3<\/em>: Users have brought to my attention that the video made by MoneyMax which included defamatory and slanderous remarks towards us, has been removed by Youtube for violating policy. \u00a0For the record, we did not flag the video. \u00a0We did, however, already contact lawyers and will need to decide whether to proceed with legal proceedings. \u00a0Although the video was removed appropriately, the damage has already been done to our website. \u00a0 This is a prime example of a case where in todays day and age of social media, you just cannot get away with slandering others. \u00a0People, groups and companies get hurt. \u00a0Wrongfully so. \u00a0Our team has seen a few of his other videos and I must say, several of them violate the same terms and policies. \u00a0 I won&#8217;t get into the details here but multiple videos are in clear violation. \u00a0 Hopefully, Youtube will take a look at them and have his fake news, click bait channel shut down permanently. \u00a0I believe a channel is allowed 3 strikes and he has already been warned previously. \u00a0Here is a public tweet that he made from a Twitter account he was using to contact Youtube&#8217;s Policy team:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-459\" src=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/twitter-message-1024x161-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"161\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/twitter-message-1024x161-1.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/twitter-message-1024x161-1-300x47.png 300w, https:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/twitter-message-1024x161-1-768x121.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-269\" src=\"http:\/\/www.kidschat.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/twitter-message-1024x161.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"832\" height=\"131\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>His video was littered with fake news and lies yet he is here trying to sound like a victim. \u00a0 It&#8217;s one thing to show your fight against the predators but do the right thing and present the truth. \u00a0I am assuming he was referring to our website as the &#8220;pedo ring&#8221;. \u00a0He thinks that by mentioning the FBI and NCMEC, it would scare Youtube into adding his video back. \u00a0Our response has been more than sufficient to show that this individual has no credibility at all. \u00a0We welcome the FBI, NCMEC or any other entity to view this website and see if we are knowingly allowing, encouraging, \u00a0creating a &#8220;ring&#8221; or safe haven for predators and ignoring real reports. \u00a0 \u00a0After they find that we are not, we hope they can get in touch with us so we can work together. (we have worked with some FBI branches in the past and would love to hear any new ideas or suggestions to help eradicate predators from the web) \u00a0Ultimately, MoneyMax&#8217;s video was filled with lies and exaggerated facts. \u00a0It was rightfully removed. \u00a0 The predators most likely did not flag the video. \u00a0What are they going to say? \u00a0That they have rights too? \u00a0 They spend more of their worthless lives doing shadier things. \u00a0It was most likely flagged by subscribers or viewers who are sick of people who think they are going to get away with slandering others without credible evidence. \u00a0 Nah, we&#8217;re not going to let that happen. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> If he&#8217;s still around to show another video, we hope he&#8217;s learned his lesson from this one. \u00a0Stop the lying, present real facts, credible evidence and stop stretching the truth. \u00a0 Show both sides of an argument. \u00a0When you have a decision to either reach out to find the real truth or to say heck with it, i&#8217;m going to stretch the truth, nobody will notice. \u00a0 Please choose the former. \u00a0You will eventually be called out like you were here. \u00a0 Put monetary gains aside for once. \u00a0Read everything carefully so you don&#8217;t take things out of context. \u00a0 All of these suggestions may actually get him a respectable video. \u00a0But, please do lose that silly fake voice \ud83e\udd10. \u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stay safe everyone. \ud83d\ude37<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hey kids! 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